“May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.”

"This report is maybe 12-years-old. Parliament buried it, and it stayed buried till River dug it up. This is what they feared she knew. And they were right to fear because there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it, too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people. You all got on this boat for different reasons, but you all come to the same place. So now I'm asking more of you than I have before. Maybe all. Sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, 10, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people . . . better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave." ~ Captain Malcom Reynolds

Monday, May 11, 2009

Can anyone get verification of this?

Don't have my next VA appointment for another month or so, but got this in email today:

I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found something very interesting I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions.

(1. Did I feel stressed?)
(2. Did I feel threatened?)
(3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?)

The nurse then informed me, if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.

I am a Viet Nam vet and 15 year cc permit holder. Looks like they are going after us vets.
Can anyone tell me if this is verified or not? Not that I'm concerned about the questions, but yet again it is a sign of folks poking their noses where they don't belong.


Anonymous said...

OK, you can't buy a firearm if you've ever been involuntarily committed. That's on the yellow form. I THINK this is bogus because each state (or each jurisdiction, like MA with the police chief) has their own rules for issuing carry permits, and it's not Homeland Security's baby.

Now, hospitals ARE encouraged to ask about guns and urge you to get rid of them, due to influence by the AMA and some doctor's groups. There are other mandatory screenings, including domestic violence and drug use, and smoking and whatnot.

If you have homicidal ideation, and make a threat to kill someone (or suicidal ideation and threaten to kill yourself) you can end up involuntarily committed and the people you threaten have to be warned. Otherwise, this sounds like a horrid violation of patient confidentiality, and a big-arsed HIPPA violation. Sounds illegal to me, but I'm not a lawyer.

Captain Tightpants said...

Exactly my thoughts - I'm well aware of the requirements post-involuntary committal, the Lauternberg amendment rules on domestics etc. Plus I know that for several years pediatricians have been encouraged to ask kids about weapons at home. But, as you said, the way this is being phrased sounds like a BIG HIPAA issue among other things - and there is a hell of a difference between "feeling stressed" and involuntarily committed!

misbeHaven said...

If "feeling stressed" was grounds for losing your CHL, no one would have one. This smells fishy to me.

Nice blog, by the way.

wv = frinsi. On the edge of much ado about nothing.

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